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novapsycheSo, regarding the post about LJ drama:
My computer at home can't pull up the entire thread without hanging. The only other computer I have access to on a regular basis is my work computer, and I cannot spend hours reading a thread when I have very pressing work to do (and work I get paid for, incidentally).
So, to the folks who came over here from![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
ginmar's journal: 1) I'm not ignoring you; I can't read all of your responses. 2) I have not accused any of you of being trolls, although I still think some of you have carried over some of the combativeness from the journal mentioned above. 3) If you think we've gotten to the point where neither of us will change our minds (and I have to admit that I've thought seriously about porn & prostitution for the last twelve years, and feminism for nearly as long), then this is where I say we should agree to disagree.
I have no need or desire to call anyone names. I don't like attacking people. In fact, I really enjoy being nice to people; it makes me feel good. Insults make me queasy. Unlike some of your colleagues, I won't imply that you are stupid or assholish just because you hold a different opinion and/or worldview than I do. Nor will I think you better or worse than me if you have been formally educated or not. I choose to be positive and I try my best to be respectful, even to people who are dismissive of my worldview.
My only wish? That, if you do have a difference of opinion (and it's massively obvious that some of you do), that you actually respond to the paper I posted. Respond to the ideas I actually put forth, instead of the misinterpretation of my ideas that was populated inginmar's journal by her coterie.
Here's where I don't apologize: My yin-yang icon (the one attached to this post) was the first icon I ever had on LJ. I had it and used it exclusively for upwards of three years. That I used it inginmar's journal was not a sign of disrespect (although, once ginmar asked me about it, I would have explained had she been patient enough to hear me out). It's one of my stand-tall-stand-firm icons. Also, it's a BDSM icon, not a porn icon. If I had something that depicted penis-in-vagina (I had an hentai icon that did just that--tentacle porn at that!), then yes, I could see how one could take umbrage. BDSM doesn't even have to be about sex; I don't categorize it as porn, necessarily. No apologies. If you want to take offense, you are free to do so.
As for anyone else just tuning in: The drama is dying down; might even be dead by now. Which is fine. I'm not terribly practiced at teh drama.
On the other hand, I'd not before had a thread that reached over 120 responses. Not even the post about the male privilege checklist got so many replies (though I daresay they were more heated).
And, for those who missed it, here is another thread about porn and prostitution from about two years ago.
My computer at home can't pull up the entire thread without hanging. The only other computer I have access to on a regular basis is my work computer, and I cannot spend hours reading a thread when I have very pressing work to do (and work I get paid for, incidentally).
So, to the folks who came over here from
ginmar's journal: 1) I'm not ignoring you; I can't read all of your responses. 2) I have not accused any of you of being trolls, although I still think some of you have carried over some of the combativeness from the journal mentioned above. 3) If you think we've gotten to the point where neither of us will change our minds (and I have to admit that I've thought seriously about porn & prostitution for the last twelve years, and feminism for nearly as long), then this is where I say we should agree to disagree.I have no need or desire to call anyone names. I don't like attacking people. In fact, I really enjoy being nice to people; it makes me feel good. Insults make me queasy. Unlike some of your colleagues, I won't imply that you are stupid or assholish just because you hold a different opinion and/or worldview than I do. Nor will I think you better or worse than me if you have been formally educated or not. I choose to be positive and I try my best to be respectful, even to people who are dismissive of my worldview.
My only wish? That, if you do have a difference of opinion (and it's massively obvious that some of you do), that you actually respond to the paper I posted. Respond to the ideas I actually put forth, instead of the misinterpretation of my ideas that was populated in
ginmar's journal by her coterie. Here's where I don't apologize: My yin-yang icon (the one attached to this post) was the first icon I ever had on LJ. I had it and used it exclusively for upwards of three years. That I used it in
ginmar's journal was not a sign of disrespect (although, once ginmar asked me about it, I would have explained had she been patient enough to hear me out). It's one of my stand-tall-stand-firm icons. Also, it's a BDSM icon, not a porn icon. If I had something that depicted penis-in-vagina (I had an hentai icon that did just that--tentacle porn at that!), then yes, I could see how one could take umbrage. BDSM doesn't even have to be about sex; I don't categorize it as porn, necessarily. No apologies. If you want to take offense, you are free to do so. As for anyone else just tuning in: The drama is dying down; might even be dead by now. Which is fine. I'm not terribly practiced at teh drama.
On the other hand, I'd not before had a thread that reached over 120 responses. Not even the post about the male privilege checklist got so many replies (though I daresay they were more heated).
And, for those who missed it, here is another thread about porn and prostitution from about two years ago.
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Date: 2007-09-06 08:00 am (UTC)Hang in there.
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Date: 2007-09-06 01:23 pm (UTC)Well, not quite at that point, so:
You wrote this (http://novapsyche.livejournal.com/1765544.html?thread=4174760#t4174760).
To which I replied (http://novapsyche.livejournal.com/1765544.html?thread=4176808#t4176808) (typo clarified here (http://novapsyche.livejournal.com/1765544.html?thread=4177576#t4177576)).
Your response (http://novapsyche.livejournal.com/1765544.html?thread=4177832#t4177832) to the non-clarification comment garnered this reply (http://novapsyche.livejournal.com/1765544.html?thread=4183208#t4183208) from me.
In turn, you wrote this comment (http://novapsyche.livejournal.com/1765544.html?thread=4185768#t4185768), and it appears that due to the very long thread, you were not able to see my response (http://novapsyche.livejournal.com/1765544.html?thread=4200616#t4200616) (misspelling corrected in this one (http://novapsyche.livejournal.com/1765544.html?thread=4200872#t4200872)).
Clicking those individual links will let you avoid the problems you were having, and see the relevant sections of the thread. I am interested in continuing this.
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Date: 2007-09-06 01:28 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-06 11:41 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-12 04:35 pm (UTC)