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S.D. to vote on abortion law in Nov.

Oh, and no one is really mentioning this report, which is a lynchpin in the pro-life argument.

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Date: 2006-06-19 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-thundering.livejournal.com
Is it bad that I don't really trust people to vote this down?

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Date: 2006-06-19 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
No, they would argue until they're blue in the face, it's all about the sanctity of life - until you're born that is. At which point they're fine if you starve to death or get sent overseas to secure oil for the Empire. But Gawd forbid fetuses die!

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Date: 2006-06-19 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novapsyche.livejournal.com
What I love about most of those who claim to be about the 'sanctity of life' is, they're for having all these babies be born, but if they grow up and ever commit a crime, the death penalty should remain an option.

*sigh* Logical consistency. That's all I'm asking for.

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Date: 2006-06-19 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
The only way to find logical consistency in the Chaliban's position is to conclude that they are motivated not by love for fetuses but by hatred for women.

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Date: 2006-06-19 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
I wish I could call you a cynic, but sadly, I have to call you a realist. They'd never admit to it, but that mixture of love and violence in the bible creates some serious warps.

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Date: 2006-06-19 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Sorry, Pro-life only extends to unborn life. After that, it's all Darwin's sandbox. And pro-war and pro-torture sadly is more or less biblical.

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Date: 2006-06-19 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
What happens to a fetus after birth is irrelevant because the fetus is not really relevant to begin with. The Chaliban wants to ban abortion and birth control because it is a way of making women into non-people -- that is the beginning and the end of what this is really about.

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Date: 2006-06-19 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackwinterbyrd.livejournal.com
it might be more about the baptism than the sanctity of life. as soon as your baptised, your on your own. free will and all. sort of a choice.

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Date: 2006-06-19 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novapsyche.livejournal.com
I don't follow what you mean. Can you expound?

Many feel that infant baptism is against what the Church stood for (or should stand for). In the Middle Ages, people were not baptised until the age of maturity (usually around 14).

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Date: 2006-06-19 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackwinterbyrd.livejournal.com
not really, I'm pretty scattered today.

I think what I mean is, if a baby dies before it is baptised (or is aborted) it cannot go to heaven, innocent as it may be. but once baptised, it can starve to death and go to heaven and be saved. so as long as the baby is born and baptised and gets eternal reward, that's more important than quality of life on earth.

this disregard for life on earth and prime importance of afterlife may explain some anti-choice/pro death penalty/anti-social programs contradictions. personally i feel the whole anti-choice movement is anti-sex and based on the false idea that all women should welcome all pregnancies, that motherhood is the highest ambition etc etc. I hope s. dakota votes it down.

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Date: 2006-06-19 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supergee.livejournal.com
The people who run screaming-fetus ads are not bothered by mere fact.

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