That's too simplistic. The whole point is about thinking. And not just the rote, or mechanical types of thinking that even an animal can do, but the unique-to-you thought patterns that not only demonstrate that you exist but are part of the very definition of you-ness.
If you don't think and have opinions and logical leaps, etc, then you aren't there, it's just a janann-like body with a pulse. The you-ness is something beyond that, the intention that is behind doing, that precedes doing or prevents doing, as you will.
You have a will (and a philosophy), therefore you are.
part of the magic of cogito is that the verb is not simple.
and on another topic, do you want to go to a movie with me at 7? free. please answer and/or call me (996-9017) soon, I need to firm up plans for the evening. (I sent you email on this, but I don't know if you've seen it)
I'd love to go. :) Thank you for the invitation. (I really have missed you, Anne. I hope to explain more when I see you in person.)
As for cogito, I admit that I do not understand Latin in the least, except that etymologically it's extremely important in the general family tree of languages. When I see "Cogito ergo sum," my mind always says, "Oh, that's really 'I think, therefore I am.'" I'm completely wired for English. It's a detriment sometimes.
My point is that to think is to do. Thinking is an action, even though it is a special type of action.
Part of this also goes to my mystical trains of thought: that non-thought would be non-action, which would be the closest thing to rest that we humans could experience outside of heaven. Does that make sense?
Of course, you could look it as if, because of the nature of the equation presented, to be was to think. Or that thought in and of itself was being, and being was in and of itself thought. As a result, you couldn't really say that you were "being" without "thinking" (and as a result, no action would or could be performed without actually realizing, contemplating and accepting the resultant effects of that cause), just as you couldn't say that you were "thinking" unless you were completely, absolutely and without pause "being". In many ways, it would be like the saying, "if you understand the question, you already know the answer."
My point is that to think is to do. Thinking is an action, even though it is a special type of action.
Part of this also goes to my mystical trains of thought: that non-thought would be non-action, which would be the closest thing to rest that we humans could experience outside of heaven. Does that make sense?
so heaven is a state of rest? I don't see how you could experience it in that case. Although I suppose no one said it's within the physical realm...
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Date: 2003-01-16 01:26 pm (UTC)If you don't think and have opinions and logical leaps, etc, then you aren't there, it's just a janann-like body with a pulse. The you-ness is something beyond that, the intention that is behind doing, that precedes doing or prevents doing, as you will.
You have a will (and a philosophy), therefore you are.
part of the magic of cogito is that the verb is not simple.
and on another topic, do you want to go to a movie with me at 7? free. please answer and/or call me (996-9017) soon, I need to firm up plans for the evening. (I sent you email on this, but I don't know if you've seen it)
Movement and rest. That's what it's all about.
Date: 2003-01-16 01:42 pm (UTC)As for cogito, I admit that I do not understand Latin in the least, except that etymologically it's extremely important in the general family tree of languages. When I see "Cogito ergo sum," my mind always says, "Oh, that's really 'I think, therefore I am.'" I'm completely wired for English. It's a detriment sometimes.
My point is that to think is to do. Thinking is an action, even though it is a special type of action.
Part of this also goes to my mystical trains of thought: that non-thought would be non-action, which would be the closest thing to rest that we humans could experience outside of heaven. Does that make sense?
Re: Movement and rest. That's what it's all about.
Date: 2003-01-16 02:03 pm (UTC)Re: Movement and rest. That's what it's all about.
Date: 2003-01-17 05:41 pm (UTC)Part of this also goes to my mystical trains of thought: that non-thought would be non-action, which would be the closest thing to rest that we humans could experience outside of heaven. Does that make sense?
so heaven is a state of rest? I don't see how you could experience it in that case. Although I suppose no one said it's within the physical realm...