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Wrath over a Hindu God

Folklore has it that elephants never forget, and Paul Courtright has reason to believe it. A professor of religion at Emory University, he immersed himself in the story of Ganesha, the beloved Hindu god with the head of an elephant. Detecting provocative Oedipal overtones in Ganesha's story -- and phallic symbolism in his trunk -- he wrote a book setting out his theories in 1985.

Nineteen years later, thanks to an Internet campaign, the world has rediscovered Courtright's book. After a scathing posting on a popular Indian Web site, he has received threats from Hindu militants who want him dead.

[...] New Jersey entrepreneur Rajiv Malhotra argued that Doniger and her students had eroticized and denigrated Hinduism, which was part of the reason "the American mainstream misunderstands India so pathologically."

Re: You don't wanna fuck with Ganesh:

Date: 2004-04-10 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mazecraft.livejournal.com
See, I don't know what Rajiv Malhotra is talking about...American's totally get Hinduism!!!

Re: You don't wanna fuck with Ganesh:

Date: 2004-04-10 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prema.livejournal.com
that's not even Lord Ganesha. His body takes on the human form.

Re: You don't wanna fuck with Ganesh:

Date: 2004-04-10 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metaphorge.livejournal.com
I reckon Lord Ganesh takes on whatever form that He wants. ;)

Re: You don't wanna fuck with Ganesh:

Date: 2004-04-10 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prema.livejournal.com
Not really. There are no stories about Lord GaneshA that I know of where He takes on any other form, unlike some other Hindu gods and goddesses. He's not the omnipotent god in hindu mythology.

Re: You don't wanna fuck with Ganesh:

Date: 2004-04-10 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metaphorge.livejournal.com
*insert long discourse on the mutability and malleability of divine archetypes here*

Re: You don't wanna fuck with Ganesh:

Date: 2004-04-10 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prema.livejournal.com
- points out various fallacies in discussion while trying hard to find the point to it all -

Re: You don't wanna fuck with Ganesh:

Date: 2004-04-10 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metaphorge.livejournal.com
*highlights the point that the divine is not bound by humans' narrow understanding of all the things that they are and contain*

*disappears in a puff of smoke*

I think the important question is

Date: 2004-04-11 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arjuna.livejournal.com
When you found this picture did it say it was a picture of Ganesha or did the picture just remind you of Ganesha because the previous comments are correct this form is not the approrpriate portrayal of Ganesha in any known story.

Re: I think the important question is

Date: 2004-04-11 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metaphorge.livejournal.com
It seems like you guys are missing the point here:

The original post is about "American views of Ganesh".

This action figure suggests a uniquely American take on what Ganesha would be like....

(no subject)

Date: 2004-04-10 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arjuna.livejournal.com
I took a look at amazon to see what reviewers thought of his book and found a few interesting quotes one of which is:

"This book seeks to use questionable theories to demean Ganesha, likening the child deities fondness for sweets to a desire for oral sex, for instance."

What the hell does eating sweets have to do with oral sex?? What a fucking idiot. I'm sure his book is just garbage that should be ignored. Saying he deserves to die for this is just feeding into his delusions of grandeur.

elephants never forget

Date: 2004-04-11 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autodidactic.livejournal.com
I don't know. A lot of this smacks of post-colonialist prudery to me. It's one thing to say "Be respectful of my culture's archetypes and gods!" and it's another thing entirely to claim that the notion that gods have sexuality is offensive and whoever says this should be put to death.

Gods are masks that humans put on ourselves and/or the things we feel very strongly about. We are the puppetmasters. Gods aren't trademarked, either, so I could say things like "Jesus built my hotrod" and "Kali's the best I've ever danced with", and it doesn't kill your idea of Kali-Ma or Jesus.

Words lie. People don't own ideas.

A.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-04-11 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autodidactic.livejournal.com
And, besides, if you really want to misunderstand India in a pathological way, ask an Indian to explain what a Dalit is. In fact, ask several. And then try to find any logic to it.

A.

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