It's clearly stated in discipline. The 12 stand for the 12 apostles .. the 12 apostles were men, so the observance is done with men. I don't see a reason that it has to be men, and since it is discipline, it can be changed. However, since it is discipline it cannot just be ignored and thwarted. It is not up to individuals to change disicipline, it is up to the diocese community as a whole.
The line at the bottom bothered me and ties directly to the above: who attends several Catholic churches. This is a red flag. You are a member of one parish. That is your community, you give to it and it gives to you. Jumping around parishes is typically a sign of someone who just wants things their way and puts themselves and their wants first. This is antithetical to the catholic mindset, but all too common among american catholics. Yes it is a generalization and does not hold true for all, but it is a good generalization and holds true for the majority.
Change can be made, protesting during mass, especially during the Triduum, is not the way to make it.
It seems to me that a lot of women I hear on the liberal "free speech" radio station in my town are feminists...but they talk about how women are superior to men.
So...what is the feminist...hm...belief? That women are superior to men or that they're equal to them? Because if it's the former, that seems wrong to me. Aren't we all supposed to be equal?
Never in my life have I said or believed that women were superior to men.
Feminism had its start in the struggle for rights. Some fundamental rights have been won. However, cultural views of women haven't changed much in the last 200 years. The culture is getting more conservative toward women. Feminism in the postmodern world is now more a movement for equal consideration.
As a poet, you understand the weight of an image. In American society, the image of man is worth more than the image of woman. I am a feminist because I want to change that.
Oh, sorry if I sounded like I was directly attacking you or anything. I didn't think you thought that, that question was to get the clear purpose of feminism. Because I swear, those women on that radio station make me so mad. They completely focus on how women are better than men rather than striving for equality.
Well, when I was in college, I learned that there wasn't one "feminism". By the time we'd gotten around to studying it, it had fractionalized.
There are radical feminists like Catharine McKinnon and Andrea Dworkin. These women scare me.
There are liberal feminists like Gloria Steinem, who became famous in the '70s. This is what passes as mainstream feminism.
There's pro-life feminism. There's anti-sex feminism. There's pro-prostitution feminism. There's all sorts of sects and splinter groups.
But, in general, what feminists do is examine the culture and try to understand how the traditional tenets of Western philosophy underpin the way that society today views women.
"A shepherd who cares only for the rams won't have a flock for very long," said Kathleen Pruitt of Bremen, Ga., who attends several Catholic churches."
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Date: 2004-04-06 05:41 pm (UTC)The line at the bottom bothered me and ties directly to the above: who attends several Catholic churches. This is a red flag. You are a member of one parish. That is your community, you give to it and it gives to you. Jumping around parishes is typically a sign of someone who just wants things their way and puts themselves and their wants first. This is antithetical to the catholic mindset, but all too common among american catholics. Yes it is a generalization and does not hold true for all, but it is a good generalization and holds true for the majority.
Change can be made, protesting during mass, especially during the Triduum, is not the way to make it.
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Date: 2004-04-06 05:43 pm (UTC)It seems to me that a lot of women I hear on the liberal "free speech" radio station in my town are feminists...but they talk about how women are superior to men.
So...what is the feminist...hm...belief? That women are superior to men or that they're equal to them? Because if it's the former, that seems wrong to me. Aren't we all supposed to be equal?
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Date: 2004-04-06 05:49 pm (UTC)Feminism had its start in the struggle for rights. Some fundamental rights have been won. However, cultural views of women haven't changed much in the last 200 years. The culture is getting more conservative toward women. Feminism in the postmodern world is now more a movement for equal consideration.
As a poet, you understand the weight of an image. In American society, the image of man is worth more than the image of woman. I am a feminist because I want to change that.
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Date: 2004-04-06 06:16 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-04-06 06:38 pm (UTC)There are radical feminists like Catharine McKinnon and Andrea Dworkin. These women scare me.
There are liberal feminists like Gloria Steinem, who became famous in the '70s. This is what passes as mainstream feminism.
There's pro-life feminism. There's anti-sex feminism. There's pro-prostitution feminism. There's all sorts of sects and splinter groups.
But, in general, what feminists do is examine the culture and try to understand how the traditional tenets of Western philosophy underpin the way that society today views women.
I liked this quote
Date: 2004-04-07 03:13 am (UTC)Damn straight.