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Jan. 3rd, 2008 06:31 pm
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My reply: Boo to sexist humor.


[livejournal.com profile] droid_1's response: Hehehehe!!!

Try to think of it as how the typical male thinks of the typical female. More complicated than himself. Perhaps non-understandable.

Of course, I re-iterate that I personally do not understand *anybody*.


My response:

You mean for me to stereotype, and I've been fighting against that since I can remember finding out what stereotypes were.

I think this explains my style of sense of humor when it comes to racial humor, for example: I like Richard Pryor--he tried to explode race from the inside out. I don't like people who play to type, like this new black comic who said (I'm paraphrasing), "You know more of us is out there stealing things, just like more Hispanics work out west." (This is also why I don't like Carlos Mencia.)

True comedy surprises instead of confirms (or it may confirm, but it confirms the nuanced, not the "rule").

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Date: 2008-01-04 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laureth.livejournal.com
The reverse could also be true. I personally find men to be less straightforward than the joke implies. The thing about sexist humor in general (and this joke in particular) is that it cuts both ways. Yes, women are "sooooo complex" - but men are not that simple and are cheapened by being categorized as such. It reminds me of that old adage about "he who throws mud also loses ground."

nice

Date: 2008-01-04 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicmaiden.livejournal.com
Well said, thank you.

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Date: 2008-01-04 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supergee.livejournal.com
No, the man's is nine inches long. And he gets really angry if some other guy has a ten-incher.

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Date: 2008-01-04 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davidfcooper.livejournal.com
How do you feel about comedians such as Stephen Colbert and Sarah Silverman who create a persona of an ignorant bigot as a way to hold ignorant bigotry up to ridicule?

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Date: 2008-01-04 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novapsyche.livejournal.com
Oh, satire is necessary and long-respected.

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Date: 2008-01-04 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atdt1991.livejournal.com
I find Stephen Colbert to be "funny" - I can laugh, I can see his point.

I find Sarah Silverman's comedy, in a sense, brutish. She leaves me embarrassed for her, even knowing where she's trying to go, and I just don't laugh.

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Date: 2008-01-04 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davidfcooper.livejournal.com
I grew up in a family where expression was valued more than decorum, which may in part explain my enthusiasm for Sarah Silverman (I also think she's a strikingly beautiful woman who is defiantly not in the typical Aryan starlet mold--which was an important plot element in Who's The Caboose). I love her stand-up act, but find her sit-com beneath her and essentially the same plot line rewritten over and over: 30 year old woman whose emotional development is arrested at the level of an 8 year old.

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Date: 2008-01-04 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guttaperk.livejournal.com
It's unfunny because it's not even close to being true.

hmm

Date: 2008-01-04 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicmaiden.livejournal.com
Men have all the same dials...just can't see them. They can't...pretend they are not there.

Look at it as they are saying the woman is a more fine tuned instrument, higher calibration. wink.

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Date: 2008-01-04 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahmichigan.livejournal.com
Mostly, these kinds of jokes aren't funny, not because they're "not PC" or something, but because they're lame and stale. Similar points to the ones you're making here:

http://kateharding.net/2007/12/20/stop-me-if-youve-heard-this-one/

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