They complain about lower-cut outfits being correlated with better tips for waitresses. Well, sex sells. Duh! It's been that way since the dawn of time.
So that makes the inherent sexism okay?
They complain that porn is male-centric blahblahblah. Well, if there's really a market out there for woman-centric porn, why not MAKE some and prove the point?
I agree with you to a point. However, as a consumer and not a producer of porn, I should be able to complain that I can't find the products that I want, and manufacturers should respond.
They complain that men are getting rich from the actions of women, examples cited being porn store owners, pimps, strip club owners, etc. Well, either the men are intrinsically better at business skills (a thesis I don't support), or the women are again not tapping into the market.
Ah, but you're ignoring the history and the reality of the sex trade. If you're a streetwalker, you do need protection, because the simple truth of things is that men can physically overpower women. What's the solution? Either you have an extensive network where each client is checked out beforehand and has an understanding of ground rules (call girl/madam prostitution) or you have the pimp system. This is the problem with illegal prostitution in this country. Legalization and/or decriminalization would go a long way to defuse a lot of this. The people doing most of the grunt work (pun intended) should be getting the lion's share of the pay, and that's just not the way it is.
That whole thread sounded like a lot of sour grapes, a lot of "why isn't this more the way *I* want it to be?"
It is a discussion in a feminist community. So you're hearing from feminists who have their own opinions about things.
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Date: 2005-07-29 08:07 pm (UTC)So that makes the inherent sexism okay?
They complain that porn is male-centric blahblahblah. Well, if there's really a market out there for woman-centric porn, why not MAKE some and prove the point?
I agree with you to a point. However, as a consumer and not a producer of porn, I should be able to complain that I can't find the products that I want, and manufacturers should respond.
They complain that men are getting rich from the actions of women, examples cited being porn store owners, pimps, strip club owners, etc. Well, either the men are intrinsically better at business skills (a thesis I don't support), or the women are again not tapping into the market.
Ah, but you're ignoring the history and the reality of the sex trade. If you're a streetwalker, you do need protection, because the simple truth of things is that men can physically overpower women. What's the solution? Either you have an extensive network where each client is checked out beforehand and has an understanding of ground rules (call girl/madam prostitution) or you have the pimp system. This is the problem with illegal prostitution in this country. Legalization and/or decriminalization would go a long way to defuse a lot of this. The people doing most of the grunt work (pun intended) should be getting the lion's share of the pay, and that's just not the way it is.
That whole thread sounded like a lot of sour grapes, a lot of "why isn't this more the way *I* want it to be?"
It is a discussion in a feminist community. So you're hearing from feminists who have their own opinions about things.