From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Ah yes, because Chinese & Korean women were eager to be degraded by their hated Japanese occupiers...

Japan has the kind of relationship with the rest of Asia that the U.S. does with Europe - meaning, pretty poor.
From: [identity profile] pstscrpt.livejournal.com
I love the icon.

Was that true before they invaded everybody in the 1930's?
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Thanks about the icon - I keep trying to re-do it to get the text to work better.

Japan occupied Korea much earlier - like 1919. I took Tae Kwon Do for years and I'll tell you, Koreans effing hate the Japanese. If Godzilla ever destroyed Tokyo, that that video would be a best seller in Asia.
From: [identity profile] pstscrpt.livejournal.com
It goes both ways. I've heard a couple of times that pointing out to the Japanese that Japan was probably settled by Koreans is not a way to make friends and influence people there.

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Date: 2007-03-01 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mehinda.livejournal.com
So if I read this right, students are welcome to tease the student about being Mormon but she gets into trouble for saying, "That's so gay"?

Dare I say it?

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Date: 2007-03-01 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novapsyche.livejournal.com
I think there is a difference. I mean, if I had been a teacher in that classroom, I would have had those students learn about religious intolerance and how the struggle for tolerance helped form the United States.

However, I classify "gay" in that context in the same category as "jewed." It's reducing an entire segment of the population and condensing it into a easily spouted-off word. It skirts the line of slur to the point where it should be seen as a slur.

If someone somehow turned "Mormon" into a similar derogatory word--"Man, I mormoned all five of those bitches last weekend!"--then yes, I'd classify it in the above category.

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Date: 2007-03-03 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mehinda.livejournal.com
I don't see a difference, really - if the girl had called the other children fags, that would fit your example; "that's so gay" has rapidly been streamlined out of its homophobic origins. For better or for worse, it's entered the common parlance as a way to say, "that's so stupid."

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Date: 2007-03-01 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pstscrpt.livejournal.com
I heard "gay" used as a general-purpose insult once in a great while growing up. It seems to have taken off in the last 10 years or so largely due to South Park, which is really strange considering that the show otherwise has a pretty good attitude toward such things.

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Date: 2007-03-02 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simianpower.livejournal.com
I heard it all the time. Even before I knew what it meant. I mean, I called my mom a lesbian once when she pissed me off just because it was an insult word; I had no idea what it meant beyond "girl fag", whatever that was.

If you start suspending students for what they say, then calling someone stupid or telling them to shut up become fair game as well. I know that school these days is more about self-validation and feeling good than learning, but this is taking it to extremes.

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Date: 2007-03-01 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dionysus1999.livejournal.com
I've got mixed feelings about the "that's so gay". While I understand that the schools are policing what sometimes turn into hate crimes, I have a problem with policing language.

I had a friend in high school who said it constantly. Honestly, I suspect he was gay or bi and denying it himself.

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