novapsyche: Sailor Moon rising into bright beams (Default)
[personal profile] novapsyche
What do you do when someone you suspect is lying to you says, "I'm not lying; I have no reason to lie to you"?

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xterminal.livejournal.com
Assume they're lying, of course. Everyone has a reason to lie; "I have no reason to lie to you" is a confidence-game trick.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dionysus1999.livejournal.com
It's definitely an odd defense, I'd be more likely to ask why someone thought I was lying. The person who says I have no reason to lie to you is putting you on the defensive.

I get the feeling the person DOES have reasons to lie to you, but they want you to think they don't.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rikhei.livejournal.com
Do they really have no reason to lie to you?

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redivivus-fate.livejournal.com
Man, I hate that. I have never had success in tactfully responding to that situation.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metaphorge.livejournal.com
WHat did their bidly language and your intuition tell you? Based on several years of observation of you in LJ-land, I'sd certainly say you should trust your intuition.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novapsyche.livejournal.com
No body language available--the conversation took place over the phone.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chimalis.livejournal.com
Protesting too much? I personally would be more suspicious.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quiet-flame.livejournal.com
Kick them in the nuts.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] royhuggins.livejournal.com
The fact that it rubs you the wrong way tells you that something's wrong, right? The content of his statement is probably irrefutable (I doubt he'd say it if it wasn't irrefutable.) So if you ignore your feelings and respond to the content of his statement, you're lost.

Basically, respond to the process behind their statement rather than the content of it. It doesn't matter if he ostensibly has no reason to lie to you. If you're pretty sure he's lying and his defense does nothing to assuage your concerns, this tells you that either he is trying to cover something up or he just doesn't have very good social skills. :) Let him know clearly that your suspicion has not been lessened and see how he reacts. Interpersonal experiments are fun! :)

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloodlikerain.livejournal.com
run like hell?

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kali-ma.livejournal.com
Well, it depends - why do you suspect they are lying to you? If you have strong evidence they are lying and they protest they are not, you are probably right to be suspicious.
In such a case I personally let it go for the moment but keep an eye out to discern the real situation.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atdt1991.livejournal.com
I would say, "Whether you have a reason has nothing to do with whether you are or are not lying."

Seriously. Pathological liars may have every reason NOT to lie, and still do.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-24 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pgdudda.livejournal.com
The line between making misleading statments and lying is a very fine one. If this was e.g. a job interview, I'd definitely say something to the effect of "misleading statements, even if technically true, may be construed as lies if they logically lead to inferences and conclusions that are false".

A coworker? I'd say "more importantly, you have every reason NOT to lie to me." (With an icy "watch me make your life hell if I discover you are lying" tone of voice.)

Socially? I'd avoid 'em like the plague; IMO, those who tell damaging lies should be shunned Amish-style. (Then again, I place high value on honesty. I'm weird that way.) Mind you, I'm not talking about "does this dress make me look fat?" lies. I'm talking about "I know you need the $1000 ASAP, the check's in the mail" lies.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-25 09:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittenkissies.livejournal.com
Kick them in the balls, if they have them...
I see that as a smokescreen.

Profile

novapsyche: Sailor Moon rising into bright beams (Default)
novapsyche

October 2014

S M T W T F S
    1234
567891011
12 131415161718
192021 22 232425
262728293031 

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags