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novapsycheSome people think the first war Americans lost was the Vietnam war.
They're wrong. It was the Civil War that was lost. Not the fighting itself, though that was a horror I couldn't imagine. No, it was the inability to reconstruct the South. If that had gone forward, wow. I can only imagine what kind of world we'd live in today.
They're wrong. It was the Civil War that was lost. Not the fighting itself, though that was a horror I couldn't imagine. No, it was the inability to reconstruct the South. If that had gone forward, wow. I can only imagine what kind of world we'd live in today.
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Date: 2004-09-26 01:55 am (UTC)Invasion of Canada - woops, America looses!
Date: 2004-09-26 04:59 pm (UTC)" The U.S. Loses
In 1813, Buffalo, New York was burned to the ground. In July of 1814, Moose Island and Eastport, Maine were captured and occupied by the British, who forced Americans there to pledge an oath of allegiance to King George. The following August, the British defeated U.S. forces at Maryland, and on August 24th burned down the Capitol Building and the White House. Parts of New York were captured by Sir George Prevost the next month, and the British began a naval blockade of the entire northeastern United States. The British threatened to invade Boston next, at which point the U.S. finally agreed to sign a peace agreement. The most famous American victory, Jackson's campaign at the Battle of New Orleans, actually took place two weeks after the war ended; the slow communication of the day prevented him from knowing this."
I know all this because an ancestor of mine fought in the war, yes he was a red coat and he helped in the invasion of Washington DC (the battle of Chesapeake) which led to the burning down of the White House.
And here's a Canadian perpsective
" Many Upper Canadian settlers were neutral at the beginning of the war, but as increasing numbers of their compatriots were killed in battle, forced from their homes, or had farms pillaged by American forces, local support for the British defenders increased. "
They even have some stamps of the hero's from that war.
Re: Invasion of Canada - woops, America looses!
Date: 2004-09-26 08:08 pm (UTC)I really should hang my head in shame: me, the American Studies scholar. The only thing I can say in my defense(?) is that I've always focused on the latter half of American history, that which started after the Civil War.
This underscores for me my need to take Am Hist I at a local college. :)
Re: Invasion of Canada - woops, America looses!
Date: 2004-09-26 10:04 pm (UTC)nope, but you owe me a drink in a pub one night, If I ever get out your way that is ;) just because I a forenger who knows more about than you (ok, Im joking - I just caught you at a weak point) and Im not a historian, just a bit of a botanist/geologist/palaeontologist/ecologist and like yourself self-taught neuropharmacologist (and Im also a bit of a computer geek).
Hehe, and I only studied general American History as part of world history. But my American friends that Ive talked too generally didn't learn much about the War of 1812 at all, I suspect because America lost and they were out there Trying to Appropriate canada's resources.
ie Americans were the evil ones (as is today as well).
Have you ever thought that if America had lost the Revolutionary War, there would have been no civil war as slavery became illegal in the British Empire in 1833?
"This act gave all slaves in the British Empire their freedom. The British government paid compensation to the slave owners."
Re: Invasion of Canada - woops, America looses!
Date: 2004-09-26 10:29 pm (UTC)Re: Invasion of Canada - woops, America looses!
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