I should explain - I'm a raging pantheist, with a lot of years practicing Wicca. I tend to think of anyone or anything male as a face of the male part of divinity, and anything or anyone female as a face of the female part of divinity.
hence the fear and awe. there is nothing God isn't.
the godhead has more faces than we can fathom, and the goddess brings forth the myriad things to experience, for experience, because for there to be experienced reality, there has to be subjectivity. Like in a dream - all the landscapes, people, and happenings are all you, but you only experience yourself as a single person in the scenario. ...such is life, and life is God.
I see a misty ball, that changes colors. Looking very similiar to a snow cone with lost of differen't flavors added. There is a Coyote that is sitting there licking at this glowing mist/snow cone, and a guy sitting on a lawn chair drinking a beer. God is the form in the center, but Coyote and Murphy is who he sends his messages through. They are sitting under a tree, that is growing folders instead of apples. Each of the Folders represents a person that has influenced my life or is important to me, both living and dead. Such as my Grandfather, who is dead, but his folder is still on the tree. I can smell and hear a BBQ neaby, as the sound of the sizzling BBQ cooks the food there is a small stream that can be faintly heard running next to the hill we are on. On the otherside of the Stream is a vast forest, that continues to surround this clearing I am in.
(sorry for the extended description, but this is what I think of when I see God. Currently. The description is commonly the same though.)
Love - the power of love - the mystery of love... Hope - especially for peace within us and on earth.... Peace - the peace that surpasses our understanding.... Presence - Emmanuel - "God is with us"... Mystery - not ever really being able to understand who/what "God" is... but above all when hear the word "God," I most often think of LOVE.
Whoa. Good question. As far as what I believe, I believe in an immanent god- god right here and everywhere, a part of everything (including ourselves)- as opposed to a transcendant- god "out there" somewhere, beyond arm's reach, unknowable, and- essentially- uncaring. Is god the Creator? Maybe. Not necessarily. Is god omniscient/omnipotent/omnibenevolent? Almost certainly not, or else there is no free will, and no sin, because all is predetermined and we have absolutely no choice but to act as we do. I believe in free will- and I believe that we must act as if we believe in free will, even if we don't have it (paradox! paradox!). I believe that an intelligent, rational look at the universe in which we live can only come to the conclusion that there is some kind of "grand architect" behind all of this, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that this is a provable conclusion, nor, again, that that it proves that "god" and "grand architect" are one and the same. Nothing of the nature of god, if he/she/it exists, can be proven through any "holy scripture", all of which constitute circular arguments as far as their "proofs" of the existence of god and their own veracity, the arguments of their various devotees notwithstanding.
So when you say "god", what I really think of is "you and me"; we all of us, individually and together, are the only gods on the scene, as we are part of god, and god is part of us and in us, and it's up to us to get the job done- or not. But there is no whitebeard out there somewhere on a throne waging war on evil, and if there is some analog of that, he's mighty displeased with a goodly number of his avowed followers who have claimed to be acting in his name...
1) Santa Claus (just because) 2) Quantum Physics (and the real nature of time) 3) Tim Leary =) (not so much the man but the embodiment of free love and freedom...NO DOGMA) 4) Music ("If god's face exists it does so in every peice of art, if he has a tounge the words he speaks will be musical") 5) Sex (and tantra, sexual, connecting and grounding energies) 6) Intuition (psychic abilities within us all) 8) Love (of all kinds) 9) Insanity (not that it's a bad thing) 10) Change
God is everything as well as that which isn't. God is immanent and transcendent. God is beyond our understanding. God is the ultimate Mystery, the utter Asymptote we keep approaching, but never reach.
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Date: 2004-07-16 06:09 am (UTC)I should explain - I'm a raging pantheist, with a lot of years practicing Wicca. I tend to think of anyone or anything male as a face of the male part of divinity, and anything or anyone female as a face of the female part of divinity.
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Date: 2004-07-16 08:49 am (UTC)hence the fear and awe.
there is nothing God isn't.
the godhead has more faces than we can fathom,
and the goddess brings forth the myriad things
to experience, for experience,
because for there to be experienced reality, there has to be subjectivity.
Like in a dream - all the landscapes, people, and happenings are all you,
but you only experience yourself as a single person in the scenario.
...such is life, and life is God.
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Date: 2004-07-16 10:03 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-07-16 12:09 pm (UTC)And Love.
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Date: 2004-07-16 12:16 pm (UTC)They are sitting under a tree, that is growing folders instead of apples. Each of the Folders represents a person that has influenced my life or is important to me, both living and dead. Such as my Grandfather, who is dead, but his folder is still on the tree.
I can smell and hear a BBQ neaby, as the sound of the sizzling BBQ cooks the food there is a small stream that can be faintly heard running next to the hill we are on. On the otherside of the Stream is a vast forest, that continues to surround this clearing I am in.
(sorry for the extended description, but this is what I think of when I see God. Currently. The description is commonly the same though.)
(no subject)
Date: 2004-07-16 01:14 pm (UTC)Hope - especially for peace within us and on earth....
Peace - the peace that surpasses our understanding....
Presence - Emmanuel - "God is with us"...
Mystery - not ever really being able to understand who/what "God" is...
but above all when hear the word "God," I most often think of LOVE.
luminous bliss
Date: 2004-07-16 02:24 pm (UTC)<3
what about you?
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Date: 2004-07-16 03:12 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-07-16 06:31 pm (UTC)As far as what I believe, I believe in an immanent god- god right here and everywhere, a part of everything (including ourselves)- as opposed to a transcendant- god "out there" somewhere, beyond arm's reach, unknowable, and- essentially- uncaring.
Is god the Creator? Maybe. Not necessarily.
Is god omniscient/omnipotent/omnibenevolent? Almost certainly not, or else there is no free will, and no sin, because all is predetermined and we have absolutely no choice but to act as we do.
I believe in free will- and I believe that we must act as if we believe in free will, even if we don't have it (paradox! paradox!).
I believe that an intelligent, rational look at the universe in which we live can only come to the conclusion that there is some kind of "grand architect" behind all of this, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that this is a provable conclusion, nor, again, that that it proves that "god" and "grand architect" are one and the same.
Nothing of the nature of god, if he/she/it exists, can be proven through any "holy scripture", all of which constitute circular arguments as far as their "proofs" of the existence of god and their own veracity, the arguments of their various devotees notwithstanding.
So when you say "god", what I really think of is "you and me"; we all of us, individually and together, are the only gods on the scene, as we are part of god, and god is part of us and in us, and it's up to us to get the job done- or not. But there is no whitebeard out there somewhere on a throne waging war on evil, and if there is some analog of that, he's mighty displeased with a goodly number of his avowed followers who have claimed to be acting in his name...
(no subject)
Date: 2004-07-16 06:57 pm (UTC)because anything that you say after the word "is" would be truth, albiet one of infinite truths.
To infinite to describe, however:
Date: 2004-07-18 03:29 am (UTC)1) Santa Claus (just because)
2) Quantum Physics (and the real nature of time)
3) Tim Leary =) (not so much the man but the embodiment of free love and freedom...NO DOGMA)
4) Music ("If god's face exists it does so in every peice of art, if he has a tounge the words he speaks will be musical")
5) Sex (and tantra, sexual, connecting and grounding energies)
6) Intuition (psychic abilities within us all)
8) Love (of all kinds)
9) Insanity (not that it's a bad thing)
10) Change
Re: luminous bliss
Date: 2004-07-19 05:40 am (UTC)God is everything as well as that which isn't.
God is immanent and transcendent.
God is beyond our understanding. God is the ultimate Mystery, the utter Asymptote we keep approaching, but never reach.